Meanwhile, there are more questions since the court documents did not reveal the cause of death for Abby and Libby. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. That piece of information being leaked and generally accepted by the public doesnt do a damn thing to preserve the integrity of the investigation.. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. The suspect has since moved back to North Carolina, and young women have begun to disappear from the trails there now. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. Yes, the police have told us that they now think that Bridge Guy or Mr. X did Evansdale too. He was searching for the girls. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. I think this whole crime scene was severely compromised but still doable At least two prior marriages. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. Did he eat? And humans are animals too. Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? Theyre generally unusable. Victim was an 8-12 year old female. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. We believe he could have been staging that elaborate crime scene during that time. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Delphi Investigators Are 'Actively Pursuing' Accused Predator James Chadwell, Libby German's Grandfather Says Reward in Killings of Delphi Teens Libby German and Abby Williams Rises to $325K. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. It doesnt seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time. One question: I havent seen this anywhere but have the police questioned Mr. X about the murders? Well, hes the right age anyway. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. Rumor is that Abbys was pink. I cant demand that my friends give me money! Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. . Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Let me jump in here. They werent that close. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. We now have search party members who saw the crime scene; official case documents; the testimony of Leigh Kerr, a man who claims to have seen official case documents; accurate crime scene photos; and the best LE sources we have ever had. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. Copyright 2022 WNDU. 4-lane highway. Always. I appreciate your style about not being afraid to put out things others wouldnt dare & or might even get accosted over doing soThose idiots are WEAK& most of them are hypocritesSome of the new YouTubers even, they first bitch about the same thing, then they start a channel, and the next thing you know, their moderators are hacking/choking& putting that ass in the corner for hours before allowing u to crawl back in, all bruised, & compliantNot for me. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the show's founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesday's "Crime Stories" to discuss the case. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. If they were killed right away, its no problem, but if they were not killed until 12 hours later, its one more thing that makes no sense. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. Old style 501 blue jeans from the 1980s Dad jeans. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. It would have to be a day or two before people would think to look. Thats what we want to talk to him about when our investigators go out there again. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. I saw the local Delphi News footage from the week of the murders where they interview Ron Logan while they are actually searching his property. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. Otherwise why do we have religions? The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. Archived post. Busy location with a diner nearby. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. Only a deer kit looks just like that. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. I think he already knew that they would be there. Every podcast is all about them! We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. Double jeopardy? Cookie Notice One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the . No one knows if he did this crime or not. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. 2-13 again. Knives. At 13 and 14 the cycles are messed up bad. It turns out that BGs shoes are dead perfect matches for Indiana Packers workboots. Before the shooting, police believe a silver . Interestingly, I had NO idea who you were (sorry). Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. Newly-obtained transcripts were released shortly after the fifth anniversary of the deaths of Abby Williams and Liberty German, two young girls who were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. They say they want to prevent false confessions. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. We currently feel that this is the best explanation of the facts. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. If I were on the jury, the only thing I would care about was whether the state had proved that Mr. X committed this crime. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. The move, which takes effect immediately, comes as insulin makers continue to face pressure from members of Congress and advocacy groups to lower the cost of the lifesaving medication. Even if somehow she didnt know about some surrounding neighbors, couldnt LE just show her (or FSG or the bickering couple in the park etc,) a pic of Mr. X and get verification that way? One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. Welcome to the site! However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. LE would also be interested in anyone who may have helped Mr. X after the crime, perhaps burning evidence or whatever. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. Theres just journalists. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at 844-459-5786 Indiana State Police at 800-382-7537 The Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413 Email Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com I can only hope that justice is served for Abby and Libby and that their families are one day able to find peace. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. Now, for the first time, we're hearing from the man whose pictures were stolen and used by that "anthony_shots . Why do kids play make-believe? I dont know what these names mean. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. Others close to the victims, who I will not name, have channeled their grief into rage and lashing out at everyone around them. It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. He took an undocumented deer trail and evaded the encountering of any individual upon his departure. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. Hence, formally, everything Leaker said has gone into unconfirmed rumors other than the things we were able to confirm from other probative sources. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. Ages approximate. Ill leave it at that. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. When we line the two theories against each other, ours wins hands down. 8) He drives an older model Ford Ranger type of truck. Considering I often cannot view website news articles because of data protection laws? DELPHI, Indiana -- A Delphi, Indiana, man, Richard Allen, has been arrested for the 2017 murders of eighth graders Abby . The only places he differs is where he thinks that the police are wrong! Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. The event, entitled New and Old Wars, New and Old Challenges to Peace, takes place from 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. on Wednesday at McKenna Hall in rooms 215/216. Try harder. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. 9) He has killed before. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Is that also speculation? Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? Police: Umm you had told investigators umm and I know you say you dont remember a girl that you ever talked to but I know you remember Liberty German? Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. I tend to suspect the latter of the two rather than the former. He was also being investigated as a possible suspect in the kidnapping and murders of . 242? He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. Newly-obtained transcripts were released shortly after the fifth anniversary of the deaths of Abby Williams and Liberty German, two young girls who were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Kelsi German has been cleared. He had been there that morning too. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. The accusation is that she knows something or knows way too much and is covering for someone, presumably the killer. The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. Also, I was interested in whether you may be able to cover Harmony Montgomerys case? He was married to Becky Pattys sister at the time, and I believe it was about a week afterwards that she posted on social media her husband was a monster then deleted it. I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. But now we have an excellent regular LE source close to the investigation giving us regular updates, the best LE source weve ever had. Its burgundy. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victims phone is proven. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. Answers to questions about my credibility. I would like to know if he has any motorcycle club affiliation, especially regarding a certain outfit with a reputation to be feared around that area? I get it. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. The recently-released interview transcripts happened after Kline was interrogated by an Indiana state trooper and a sheriffs deputy on August 18, 2020. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! Turned out he was just some troll who wanted people to think he committed these murders instead of being the person who actually did them. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. Im the one who did it. Are they deliberately lying to us? Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. If I happened to be out that day lets say partying or doing some stuff that maybe I shouldnt have been doing, and I witnessed something and had information Im telling you right now, I would think twice, then I would think two more times before I would even consider coming forward because I would be scared shitless that LE would throw my ass in jail for something completely unrelated just like they did to RL. The other person involved that is kin to this POI. BG was very well disguised that day with a white scarf covering the lower half of his face. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. Breathe so we can comment in between paragraphs pleaser. And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . No longer in state. 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